Missions In Nepal

David Chadwick
Sunday, August 13th

Jack Reid  is David's guest and they are discussing his missions to the country of Nepal.


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Everyone I'm David Chadwick in this news 1110993. WPP welcomed the show in case you don't know this is a faith and values program that Ayers every week. I try to intersect different issues that are going on locally and or globally through the lenses of faith and values it's always a pleasure. Doing the program thank you listeners for joining me on a weekly basis. Well today in studio I have a friend but he's also internationally doing ministry in a place that. Most of us don't know a whole lot about. The places no Paul. Over next to India and China. I'll let him describe more exactly where it is his name is Jack Reed and he does an extraordinary ministry. Among some of the most remote people in the world may be even able to say the most remote people in the world in the Himalayan mountains. 22 people who never ever heard it 32 people groups who have never ever heard the name of Jesus. So Jack Reed is my guest today he does a wonderful ministry in the Nepal area. And I wanted him to tell about that part of the world what he does and maybe prick within all of you all heart. For that part of our great world. Jack Reed thanks for being with me today thank you for having me is through pleasure to be here. Well Jack we wanna talk about Nepal. The earthquake that hit there what is it two years ago now write a tell us about that devastation. And is the country recovering from that horrible situation. All the data that was April 25 two years ago. And it's it's in the first few minutes of that earthquake there were 9000 people who immediately died. And the problem with the recovery efforts is that most of those affected areas were incredibly remote and so very difficult suit. To reach there were no roads that access to many of those areas. In slow supplies from rebuilding materials had to go on the backs of donkeys were on the backs of men wore. Small payloads and helicopters to comply to higher elevations. In so that it's slowed down the effort together with some. Government bureaucracy in getting. Of these aid and that exists in the hallways in well on its USS and slow down the process and getting some of that much needed urgent help. To the most remote and affected areas but it is happening now and there are several recovery and rebuild projects that were involved with and what we're doing that. That looks like schools ferocity and it's a slow arduous process but one minutes with than it's worth it. Because of the help that brings to those remote affected communities and I'm curious was this the first earthquake in Nepal or is there history in that part of the world platelets shifting that is a seismic. Active area about eighty every eighty years of yours and active earthquake and the geologist and scientists today Telus that. And what needed to happen to release the pressure. Under underground and did not fully happened and so and Paul. Is expecting another of queen at some point in the near future so you're talking now very poor people who experience an earthquake which only exacerbated their poverty and that's right you're talking about communities to. In many ways live almost in the stone age mom looked quite literally they have stone house's sort of that are stacked. On top of each other with mostly roots. And on not much holding those homes together. They are subsistence farmers to slipping off of the land trying to eke out an existence this is in the remote areas. And when the earthquake hit the small little amount of they had was immediately devastated and on. And many of them received a TARP from the government or from a implementing an aid agencies and really that's all that hope they got for two years was a small. Sixteen foot horror. To live underneath. Since that earthquake happened over two years ago and you're talking about that higher regions of the Himalayan mountains so again you mentioned the word remote and I don't think our people listing really understand remote like you do and well Nepal is really divided into three different condom tears if you will you have the flat lands then you have the hills. In the Paul everything that is 151000. Feet in lower is considered a hill. And then everything that is fifteen to 30000 feet were almost 30000 feet with Mount Everest is considered the mountains. And in those. Remote locations. Live communities. That have no. Access by road. It takes a week to two to three weeks to wall walking one way to reach those communities in the got to carry everything you need in on your journey. In so it takes a little bit of physical stamina to be able to access those areas. You're talking about walking up long high mountains and going to places that people don't even know existed that's right the highest mountains in the world champ. Well Evers is one of those and I know that we wanna talk about that some of your work and trying not this are we going up Everest but other mountains around the Everest mountain range. And what you're trying to do to reach those people what they're like their literacy levels all of those kind of things of the reasons that I wanted to have you Jack Reed on the program today Jackie is. Working amongst some of the most remote people's groups in the world trying to bring them not only the material blessings they need but also the hope. Of Jesus that they've never heard about never heard his name. And that's one of the reasons I wanted to have Jack on the program today we'll talk about exactly where Nepal is when we come back I'm David Chadwick this is news 1110993. WBT. Will be back. I'm David Chadwick. 1110993. WPP welcome back shows. My guest today is a friend I'm known for a couple of years now and and intrigued by his life and especially his hauling. He ministers in one of the most remote nations in the world the Paul and among some of the most remote people in the world. 22 on reached people's groups in of the nepalese Himalayan area. And by and reached I mean people who never ever heard the name of Jesus and Jack feels that his calling in life to take. The good news of God's love through Jesus to those people. And help transform. Their lives Jack rule quickly again thanks for being on the show and where is Nepal a lot of people might think I've heard a bit and usually the association is as you said in the first segment would Mount Everest and but but we're as Nepal. Well the poll is technically located in South Asia to the south of Nepal is India into the north of Nepal is trying to. And it sits right in between those two large superpowers and of the Himalayas from the eight of the world's highest mountains run through Nepal in the capital city is Kathmandu. So the popularity. Of going to Nepal for most people is to apply in the Kathmandu. And in gonna try to climb Everest all one of those other so that's your right to climb Everest or or there's some beautiful trucks. That are not quite as severe as climbing the world's highest mountains. That can take you through beautiful scenery for up to. Twenty days Tweety treks thirty gave treks. And there are many travelers that come from around the world just to do that. 18 year history in Nepal is absolutely fascinating on the U didn't start out with a great park for some of the most remote and reached people's groups in the world tell about you were. Association. With Nepal and how it became a part of your parked. Well I'm originally here from the United States and who went to school to become an civil engineer and took the job. In an engineering firm in Phoenix. In worked and fought all my dreams and come true when I am finally had my own cubicle. An anti a that's about. The scope boat were one of my life to go and now. I I just decided with a couple friends from war to take a simple hiking trip to the Himalayas there was no emotional purpose in the whatsoever and so we launched out we landed in Katmandu and we were gonna do a 21 day trek through the in a prone region. And about four days going up the mountain into that trek we came to a small village we're gonna stay there for the night and as were unpacking our goods and waiting for dinner. I saw a group of children being brought and escorted down the mountain were staying in the village these were. Children from the mountain and what age were they they were approximately five to fifteen years old they had no shoes today. Look like they have bloated bellies perhaps from from worms and Matta here. It just looked like they were not an hour and a really bad shape and I got into the conversation with two of the adult men that were taking them out of the mountains. In the openly told me of their intention to take them to India and sell them into brothels and into the sex industry. And though when I heard those words something snapped in mile or two and Arnold rule ended sorry I had an absolute. Breakdown right there on the side of the mountain as a young twenty year old. And just didn't know what to do with that information it touched a few things in my own heart the things that I had gone through in the past and just truly. Uncorked some things that were deeply buried down in my own soul and I had a real breakdown right there on the mountain and down my response was. To Ron and in so I said goodbye to my friends I turn around turned around and went back to Kathmandu on a fly went straight back. I just wanted to get back to deceive confines of that cubicle shut the world off and not think about it any longer and so that's exactly what I did. Went back to work and all of that lasted about four hours. In Seoul high realize that I just couldn't silence. The voices of those who were hurting and wrote a resignation letter to my Boston went over to his office and handed it in. And then went straight back to Nepal it was 1995. And been working for the children in those areas ever since. When Jack you have your own family now I'd love to. Ask you about how you met your wife and your children and ended up in Nepal and and what's that like for them well. When I went back to Nepal. Way wanted to try to find out what was causing these children to be sold vulnerable. That they could easily be taken from the villages. And so and going back guy. Had quit my job and very soon ran out of money. For myself much left to help any other children so I began to search for. A jobs that would perhaps use some engineering skills to help with development projects. The only thing that I could find was a job that was based in London or based in the UK. That would help me to travel and be able to do projects in places like Nepal so that's what I did I moved to the UK which is where I met my wife she's British. And we had our first two children in inning went. In the end of the many years later we moved to Seoul South Korea to continue. The work that we were busy with some developing nations. In our third child was born in Korea when now world based in Katmandu and have been there for many years and my children really all they know is Asia and they're more comfortable with eating rice and pizza and bug we are. We're really content and motivated. To be in that part of the world and do as much good as we possibly can and your whole family fuels coal to Nepal although it's a few days perhaps our kids. You know. How challenging days like they do it anywhere. And but yes they are comfortable there we do feel a sense of calling upon our free and we upon our life. And Utley what that that replaces. And satisfies us more than any other. I don't think that we could possibly obtain in this world my wife and I just regularly talk about. That the investment that were making and our children and what they're able to seize the young age and grow up. Indian values and appreciation that spurs and there or to be so grateful for whatever they have. And were were were were happy with where were absolutely seasonal net recession ended that year family especially your kids become grateful for whatever they have rather than our culture. Were kids costly war war and never seemed to be satisfy. Well I think Quinn you. We traveled to the developing world specially like complacent Paul. It's very re calibrated. You go back can you cease some of the basic. Striving to survive. And the options that we have here. And the plethora. Opportunities that we have her in the west those you don't find. Me in me in in much of the developing world in slick it's real simple and it's down to a few basic things of food good water and shelter over our head. And something to eat and when we see life in that simplicity. It enables us to not fold. On parade to the trappings. Of more and more and more and more which never seems to fully satisfied are you just can't get enough. And then you can began I think and from that place to really begin to meet people's needs because your eyes school. Potentially offer of yourself. And begin to go to people who really have nothing in that's where we find ourselves. And that's where our mission is being carried out I would think that when you prayed the prayer that Jesus taught his followers to pray give us this day. Our daily bread did that literally is the case for use you pray every day for god just to meet your every need it's not. Trying to form a huge bank account for fifteen years down the road it truly is war today. Give us this day our daily bread is that true it is true in the lord has been so faithful and that he has supplies all of our needs. And but I can say as we've told the book of Matthew. That were seeking first the kingdom of god in were seeking first his purpose to routes. In the Paul in the Himalayas and as were faithful in that. And and and walk forward with that charge we finally got supplies all of our needs and you've described to me how your wife oftentimes cooks over an open fire that that's what you do and you have a home of course and shelter over your head but still. It is rather primitive in comparison to the states well that was certainly dirt big the case during the earthquake. Many of the homes came down or suffered. Extreme damage structural damage and so even our own family we had to move outside. For an extended period of time and just live out with the elements. And yes in cook opened over an open fire. But you find it you know it's. You could do it and year appreciative and even more what you had before and that works or gratitude in your heart. And that's that's always a good. Reminder to house. In our motivation to help other people as well and again I would think that would draw your own personal family close together like sort of war that you have other people with few more in this ministry talk about that week so we certainly do we have a number. For ex pat families and so foreign families from around the world have joined us in Kathmandu. In the we have a really wide beautiful workforce of national workers of Polly's in Tibetans. That are busy with us in the working and our work has so many different segments to its. We have what's called an I Ngo and national non government organization which. Has a partnership with agreement with the government of Nepal. To carry out development projects in remote locations and so for us that looks like. Building schools building health post in water projects fighting against the track team issue in the Paul. And VI Ngo is the platform that enables us to access these remote areas with government approval. In work towards meeting the real needs of these communities who are are really suffering. And I'm going back to what's to urge your organ broker or when you use all the children coming down out of the villages when you were there just as a tourist. On those children are being sold into sex slavery and even with the idea that don't make money descent back to their parents and that's why their parents would like ago well. The case we that we have found is that. Really. The parents are never aware of where their children or go or not they're not so I have yet to meet a family or set of parents. Who have willingly given their children over to the sex industry. What happens is that the conditions in these remote locations. Are sold. On. Abject plea for that the parents for the sake of survival wanna send their kids out of the village. In hopes of bill gets a roof over their hatteras school to go to some more for their kids hope. In their future or their future let's talk about that when we come back because I think that's an interesting. Psychological insight into what's going on with sex trafficking I'm David Chadwick will be right back. And it's. When I'm David Chadwick and this is news eleventh in 1993 WBT welcome back to show. Would like to take a moment to thank the sponsors of the show room Chris steak house and nap on Providence that those fine restaurants that. The lead in their hearts to make a statement by sponsoring the show and also Perry's fine jewelry just appreciate so much you guys. Believing in me and warning this faith and values program to deal W beet field weekly basis. On the WBT dot com and the weekend shows look for the David Chadwick show and you can. Download the show from the beginning to the end and I think you wanna hear it because my guest today is absolutely fascinating giving us insights into a part of the world. That we know little about his name is Jack Reed he feels called. To know Paul. 222. On reached people's groups in the Himalayan area and also appearing for especially the young children who poured beer. Caught all the times in the quagmire. Of sex trafficking and Jack we were talking about that before the break and on sometimes we get the impression that parents sell their children in the sex trafficking in order to make some money themselves and you were saying that's not the case at all mean just like. Anywhere in the world parents love their kids they really think they're giving them a better opportunity for life talks more about that please Astride well. When news when you jump into the issue the sex trafficking. We're human trafficking use and you you start to dig down a little bit deeper you find that it is an interconnected issues in that it has roots that it is a by product. Of other deeper issues that are happening in society and so in the case in the Paul. You can you can go back to those villages those really remote from rule Aires and find that there is abject poverty. In there has been in the past no educational opportunities. There are no health opportunities and so many of them values that we work him in those remote locations. The horrifying statistic. Is that half of the children. Died before their eighth birthday and leading cause of death is simple diarrhea but because there is no health posted its new year. Because there's no educational opportunities for villagers to learn. Sanitation. And some of the basic things that we take for granted they become very vulnerable. To disease and two. Many of the things that that that we can avoid in life because we're better educated and so. And if you want assault. The anti trafficking or the trafficking peace in you start to look a little bit deeper as to what is creating vulnerability in these children. And so the parents. You're right they don't sell their children into the sex trade industry what they wanna do is to try to send their children out of the village. To a place where there is a school to a place where they can get medical attention. In May be that's with the family member in a big city like Katmandu the capital of Paul. With a relative or someone that they may know or a boarding school. Arm in the hopes of that child were will survive. In Asian most of Asian children part of the retirement package for their families for their parents. And and so the parents are also hopeful about children's survives because one day that parents can move in what those children and get the care that they need. And sold there are looking out for both the child's long term future and their own as well. In what happens is that in that process. Someone will come to the village and say hey I've got a great boarding school or got a great. Health care program for your child let me take them down the mountain. In then they find out what that was actually broker for a traffic team and to put them in a -- awful in they are tricked into. Surrendering their children what for what they think is a better future but they're never seen or heard from again. So part of your ministry is to go to those villages and tell the parents what's really going on. Well yes that's a part of it is to bring education. About this issue to remote communities into villages and families but to also. Build medical post. To also build schools in these remote locations. Into give them the things they're looking for an asteroid and where they can keep the family intact. In they don't have to separate. Ian van. Those communities those remote communities can begin to break the cycle of suffering. In how to change occur right beneath their feet with a new generation. That is a rising up with a new set of understanding. And values. In education that allows them to forging new path for their people you've shown you pictures of young girls dancing together almost perfectly choreographed. Something that dancing and on with the stars would be envious opt. You've seen success with your work. We have it's been a long road and so for us. When you make a commitment to children and their future. As any of you parents listening will no you're in it for the long haul on a short term. Fix and soul. The commitment for us over twenty years now we've seen children come through our programs. And now those children have college education. They're health professionals there engineers that are businessmen and women their teachers. And now they're remaining projects. Back in their home villages in the air breaking that cycle of suffering. In bringing new hope to their communities that have never had hope before. That voices Jack Reed he had to ministry called mountain shall ministries in Nepal and it's a wonderful gift that god is using it threw him to give to hopeless families caught in the quagmire of generational poverty in the Himalayan area. Jack how you communicate with the people that I mean I would imagine there are languages and nuances of language is all throughout the whole region. Well you're right. Their hour over a 108 different people groups. In the Himalayas that are over ninety different languages that are spoke. It's an incredibly diverse court of the world you can almost moved from valley to valley and find a different language. Arm and so that that creates a challenge and it's certainly does there is a national language which is in the Polly. Which is spoken through most of that area but as you move into the mountains he moved from. What are ethnic Nepal leaves you move into ethnic Tibetans the religion changes from Hindu to buddhism. The food changes. Of address changes. Ethnicity changes the facial features change everything changes. When you get into the mountains which complicates a little bit of the the efforts to bring. Aid and help to these remote communities but it's it's an effort worth making. You obviously have a commitment to the Christian faith and big bringing the gospel of Jesus Christ the love of god through his son. To that area of the world and there is a religious. A resistance though isn't there they're Camby and we first of all wanted to demonstrate God's love through meeting the very practical needs of these communities. We don't feel like he would do it speaks Berlin is a good voice. If all we're doing is just interested in. And putting up a cross or. Just some. Some some Montrae our faith you look at vocal message and then departing that's right next week with without really looking at where the people are living. In meeting their real needs in I think we can see that clearly laid out in the gospels. About price commitment to the poor and his commandments to it's to love them as we love ourselves and to meet their needs and so that's what we're doing. On through these different programs but we find that as we begin to. Meet people where their fat and bring these practice these these practical solutions they begin to ask the question. And that question is what is motivating you to do that why are you here are you do here in this and we feel like we have a good answer and that's what that's what allows us to begin to sheer. What god is on our own lives. And how he could perhaps make an impact in their life as well you alluded earlier to the major religions all of that region which she talks more about that please sure will the majority of the population in the Paul is and do. But as you move into the mountains that it changes quite dramatically to Tibetan Buddhist. And I'm DePaul is the birthplace of buddhism and Israelis and Hinduism although the both and it's kind of flowed down from the world's highest point in to other nations as well. But it originated right there in the Himalayas and their associated somewhat aren't they they are human do deserve a lot of sister and brother. They come from the same root system buddhism a reform movement of Hinduism if I remember my world religions class correctly yes. And it did but both of them have kind of the same oh world viewed that they emphasized and talked just very briefly about what that world view is well there is a constant. Procession of lives through reincarnation. That serves as a general backdrop to those religions and so. On how you live the life that your and right now determines how you come back and reincarnation in the future. In the old cement goal is to reach Nirvana to be able to in the since blow out your own candle in stop and break the cycle of re. Incarnation a sense of nothingness as I remember right that's right now now. If that's the case then karma is what determines whether you're reincarnated. To a better or worse lifestyle that's for how you live your life here than it determines your next life that's right. So if that's the case and you have a hopelessness that could come into people's lives because I'm suffering today because karma of a previous life no wonder nobody is caring for me he mislead people by the side of the road and don't care for them. That tried to and you can see that. Reflected in to the society. And how old that hope has been taken away from them and there is a regular scene in Nepal K Garnett. It which means what to do. I have no power to change anything. So why even try and and that is pervades society. In people and now we have we thought we have an answer. Well let's talk about an answer when we come back in the difference between karma and grace I mean those those really are the two stark differences between what you're trying to reach people with get what you deserve or not getting what you deserve a great way to compare the two I'm David Chadwick will be. I'm David Chadwick in this is news 11109893. W VT welcome back to the show. My guest today Jack Reed who does an absolutely fascinating ministry in Nepal and they're the world we don't hear a lot about except the earthquake two years ago. And I hope you're enjoying the show if you'd like to hear it in its entirety go to WBT dot com scroll down the weekend shows in the David Chadwick show was there. You really do wanna hear the show from beginning to end the calls folks if nothing else it just make sure exceedingly thankful for all the we have here. In America though we still have issues and problems we have so much for which to be thankful. And Jack I know you and I connected the call the church pastor here in town forced shall church. Developed a huge part for people who never heard the good news of Jesus. We heard about your ministry through mutual friend and we decided to give our Christmas. To your ministry on it was a rather large offering. Several 100000 dollars because you touched our people's lives so deeply but if anyone listening would like to contribute to help you ministry in trying to reach these remote areas especially. These young. Girls and boys were being trafficked in human trafficking how could they yeah. Yes thank you very in the condolences our website which is from mountain child dot org or gene and learn more about our mission. And what were busy with a hopefully their questions could be answered and then. If they're interested to join us in some capacity. There's certainly ways through the web sites make that happen. We have a group of about eight guys who recently went over and spent about ten days with your group going around to different areas and I know that. A couple of them came back going it was rather treacherous at times walking along you know four foot wide paths all along mountainsides that were rather high. But they said it was like changing they'll never be the same it sinks on the things that caught your heart. 21 and moved here and help. The lead a nepalese people Andes mountain children and the ways that you're helping them. On the let's get back to your story and we see you trying to take the good news of Jesus into these areas of the world on. You mention me one time that Tibetan buddhism was one of your major obstacles that they really didn't walk the Christian gospel at all. In in need these mountain villages which he talks more about that please. Well. Tibetan buddhism has been practiced for centuries and it remains. Really fixed in society. And the monastery or what's known as the goal buck through the llamas. And the monks. Really house full. Positioned himself almost every facet of society whether it's the economic. The area of the region the opinion the economy or the political system or the social system moments certainly read the religious system. They have a firm grip on all of those things and there is a role suspicion that Christians are treated with. And so we really work to overcome that by building good relationships with monasteries. In letting them see. That were really they're genuinely to bring help and aid to those villages. And I have as many friends who are practicing monks and llamas. That I regularly sit down with and can also have an opportunity to share what god has done in my life. And use it as an opportunity to witness to them are you seeing in the conversions. To christianity that happen. In those mountain villages as view and you were other members of your organization make that trek to go proclaim the gospel. We have seen conversions and the unfortunate scenario through the vast majority of those conversions. Is that they are marcher. You know that is the reality of conducting work for the gospel. Who martyrs them well it is sort of some of religious entities and village leaders who want to keep their power grip. And don't want to any other competitive. Religion as they would ceded to. Make its way to their people. Were they loose socio political economic control over people that's exactly right and there are some reminds me a lot of Jesus today that overseas in the said he sees in the religious power players of that date. Were mostly threatened by his movement and if you don't like the message kill the messenger so the same thing goes on today doesn't that's right. So win it people are martyred does that then lend itself to more conversions because there's that old phrase in the history of the church that. The seed bed to the blood of the martyrs is the seed bed of the church is that true. Well I believe that is going to be the case and so I believe that. The the things of calm in these areas that have seemed like a setback. Are actually going to be used as a catalyst. That is unfolding before us right now and or walking that out every single day. But you're exactly right I believe that. There has been a wave of people who have paid a price that's been very high but I believe that they are paving a way for future generation. To come on their backs. And for the good news of the gospel to reach those areas and take root in the hearts of people I believe it was that Ernesto mobile theologian mono. Who wants that. The uniqueness of the Christian faith is grace and that really they're two worlds religions are Grayson karma. That buddhism Hinduism now ism. Really practically every world religion has as its root karma in and that means you get what you deserve. That whatever you do there's something down the stream you'll have to pay for. But the Christian faith is unique in a jacket really doesn't break that cycle of Korman through grace and that we. We don't receive what we deserve in fact we were people we don't deserve and that's forgiveness and eternal life. And you know the concept of grace's something that can fuel a logical at times we're so conditioned in the world to get what we deserve. And to find that something as a free gift of god salvation is given to us. Really goes counterculture tour owned thinking at times but certainly see the treadmill works of people around the world and and David I can even look at some Christians that I know that are on a treadmill of works and thinking that they can try to earn their own salvation. It creeps in as does but trust in the lord and his provision in the free gifts that we have. In the new creation. It's something that we will continue to discover throughout all of eternity and I'm convinced that with each new perspective we grow. In our understanding of the lord in new facet of his grace of low for our lives and our undeserved and on merited favor. That he's bestowed upon Oswalt continually. Overwhelm our hearts with gratitude will once that grace is understood added annually given away and that's what happened your life and when when you really understood that great she wanted to give it away but call to. That area of Nepal among those 22 and reached people's groups in the world. Well I think when you on that treadmill the works and if you feel like you have achieved something. Then you've done it and it's about you and about what you've been able to achieve but when you. Com to the point in life when you know that you're incapable. Of of the holiness that god calls us to but it's his good working inside of us that works his will and pleasure in that. The one who started a good work announced he will bring it to completion. When your heart comes to rest. In what god is doing in your life that it frees you to know that it's not of yourself but it's of god. And with that revelation and understanding you can move for and I believe be God's instrument to bring life to other people. We'll be anyone's listening again and would like to support your ministry please. Used this opportunity to plug it and let me encourage all of you who might wanna find a place to help some of the port for the pour in the world to support Jack ministry Jack report that they go well once again they can go to www. Mountain child dot org orgy. And they can learn more about our mission and what were engaged with. And certainly there are avenues on that website where they can partner with us in some capacity we also. Invite teams and groups to comment participate with those in the Himalayas and we'll strap a backpack on Ian since you off into the mountains much like the men forced healed and I think. Over an eight day period they covered a hundred miles over arduous terrain so it's not for the plane apart but there's a lot of good that can be done. For people who wanna come and join us in the mission and picture itself ready for your life to be wrecked that Jack Reed thank you listeners thank you I'm David Chadwick this is news 1110993. WB TL Puerto talking with you all. 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